Sail Away

Joined

• started 16 topics
• posted 711 times   see topics posted on
• send a message

Posts by Sail Away

• 
  71

  I Hate the Sound of the Word Jehovah

  by cofty in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  listening to clips of the latest manipulative video from the watchtower i realised how much i detest that word - jehovah.. sometimes i have thought it would be interesting to observe a meeting or part of a convention.

  every time i heard that word i would be unable to stay in my seat.. i have a visceral reaction every time i hear it.

  it stands for so much that i have contempt for.

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  Sail Away

  For me it's about loaded language, an identifying mark of a cult. I have a visceral response to the word striving. My therapist used it in a positive way. I still connect it to the concept that 'everything is vanity and striving after the wind'. I explained it to him and asked him not to use the word anymore. I still have a lot of triggers even four plus years out.
• 
  12

  2015-Information Needed For Visit Of Circuit Overseer-S-61-E!

  by Atlantis in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  no wonder the elder's are becoming burned out and stepping down!

  2015, information needed for visit of circuit overseer.

  .. click the green download button.. .. information needed for visit of circuit overseer .

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  Sail Away

  "Names of brothers recommended for appointment or deletion. (The circuit overseer will obtain personal and spiritual information from each one’s Congregation’s Publisher Record card, and any pertinent history can be shared with him on Tuesday by the coordinator of the body of elders or another selected elder.—ks10 chap. 3 pars. 6-10)"

  
  Right, because "spiritualality" is defined by hours spent promoting a publishing/real estate flipping company.
• 
  11

  Simple, basic manners would be a good start

  by stillin in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  the witnesses are really challenged socially.

  in their own little world, they seem oblivious to the niceties of saying thank you or that they are sorry for some minor wrong.

  these things help life go more smoothly in the real world, like a social lubricant.. i'm simply appalled at the fact that an elder's son, who was married more than a year ago, has never sent out thank you notes for all of the gifts that the congregation gave him for his wedding.

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  Sail Away

  Many think leaving a tract is an appropriate tip, seldom a thank you card for a wedding or shower gift, and don't get me started on RSVPs. I can't tell you how many "get-togethers" I hosted where I had way to much food, because of a total lack of regard for making a commitment and keeping it. I would get a vague maybe or a verbal yes in passing at the hall or in service (even though I requested an RSVP by phone), and then way too many were no shows and made lame excuses. Sometimes they had the nerve to basically say they got a better offer. As a teen my daughter was particularly hurt by this rude behavior. Literally never a thank you other than on the way out the door, and they weren't shy about gathering up leftovers, and never thought of bringing a small gift for a host either! Grrrr!
• 
  211

  Where are you from?

  by BeautifulMind in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i know we are all anonymous for our own personal reasons, so i understand if you would rather not say.

  but if you don't mind sharing that would be cool.

  i currently live in georgia, usa.

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  Sail Away

  Madison, Connecticut, USA
• 
  61

  I'm Catholic and madly in love with a Jehovah Witness...

  by Luge62 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  we are madly in love with each other and she is in the process of being divorced.

  let me make one thing clear i'm not the reason for the divorce.

  she attempted to reconcile with him but to no avail.

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  Sail Away

  It is true, she will be disciplined, likely disfellowshipped and shunned by all including family members. I had a JW friend in the same boat. The elders insisted she break up with him on the telephone in their presence immediately. She refused, so they disfellowshipped her. The shunning even held through the tragic sudden death of her JW son. No one spoke to her at her son's funeral. That's how sick this cult's control can be.

  All too often, cult members return later, after having children, from example, because they still believe. Please educate yourself! Read Combating Cult Mind Control, By Steven Hassan.

  http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/0967068827/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?qid=1446068479&sr=8-1&pi=SY200_QL40&keywords=combating+cult+mind+control&dpPl=1&dpID=51WxCRWPkzL&ref=plSrch
• 
  10

  A little ray of hope.

  by username in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  for all those who have recently escaped this evil cult i just want to send a message of hope.. i have just had my landlord around.

  one of the first things the landlord said to me.

  "in just a year i see such a big positive difference in you" .

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  Sail Away

  I went to my cardiologist for my yearly checkup about a year after I left the organization. My doctor nearly left the room, because he didn't recognize me at all. I told him the basic story. He said I seemed so much more relaxed and happier. He said that he has seen the same level of tension in Orthodox Jewish communities. A year later my test results were even better. He told me to keep doing what I'm doing-- sailing, tai chi/qigong and meditation.
• 
  39

  Hubby has been doing research on the internet!!!!

  by atacrossroads in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  my husband was recently subjected to an intervention by his parents.

  i am apparently a danger to his spirituality.

  after i stopped attending meetings and went apostate hubby decided to resign as a ms to spend more time with me.

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  Sail Away

  Fantastic news! My husband left the organization long before I did. I didn’t tell him I was thinking of leaving, because I wanted it to be my decision, and he is just too damned opinionated. It took me six weeks away from the meetings-- no research, just time to think. That is key. Your husband instinctively knows what he needs. Listen to him.

  A few months after I physically left, I did my research. All it took for me was about two weeks with www.jwfacts.com, Crisis of Conscience and The God Delusion, and I was mentally out. Funny thing was hubby was still mentally in after 30 years physically out! It was time for him to learn TTAT! Beware, this will change the dynamics of your marriage, hopefully for the good.
• 
  83

  As a Matter of Conscience, I Am Resigning from the Christian Congregation of Jehovah's Witnesses

  by Sail Away in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  after listening to the hearings of the australian royal commission into institutional responses to child sexual abuse, i am no longer content to have simply walked away from the organization.

  as a matter of conscience, i do not want my name linked with the organization in any way.

  i know this letter has been posted previously, and i thank the author.

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  Sail Away

  At this point, I honestly don't think they announced anything. I didn't really fade. I simply walked away over four years ago and have had nothing other than brief, casual contact with the locals when I am out and about. I think the elders decided to let sleeping dogs lie.

  Yesterday, a 30-year JW 'friend' called me to catch up. She is a total gossip. If any rank and file member knew, it would be her. We made plans to cook some organic, healing foods together. She just got back from a stay at the Kushi Institute in New York City. She vacillates between exploring her interests and talents and pioneering-- major cognitive dissonance there.

  There is one particular congregation member that I see fairly frequently. She will be the litmus test as she is in one of the congregations I sent the letters to. I will keep you all posted.
• 
  48

  OF DOGS AND BITES AND BIKES AND THINGS

  by Terry in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  the thought suddenly struck me plain and obvious: "these dogs won't stop until i'm good and bloody.".

  there were two of them; a mixed breed of boxer and pit bull; clean, white--collared, tagged and--for some inexplicable reason, ferociously intent on tearing me to shreds!.

  ah, but i'm getting ahead of myself.

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  Sail Away

  So glad you are all OK! My dog was bitten, shaken three times and thrown on her back by a larger dog this spring. It was a yellow lab, and he was going for her stomach when the owner called him off. My dog was on our property and on a lead. This owner allowed his two dogs to roam free. I reported the incident to the police.

  My husband and I did a lot of bicycling years ago. We always carried air horns like the ones used on boats for safety. Wait until the dog gets fairly close. One blast will do. It stops even large angry dogs in their tracks. I've started carrying an air horn again. No need for a gun.
• 
  260

  Who Are Your Past Circuit Overseers? It's a small world..

  by mentallyfree31 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  who were your past circuit overseers?

  i'm sure a lot of us actually know mutual people, as the co's relocate all over the country.. here's a few from the southeast us: (let me know if you recognize any names and post yours too please...).

  ellwood johnson (new york/philadelphia area for several years also).

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  Sail Away

  Hood

  Desenti

  Hearst-- from the assembly hall stage warned the brothers to stay away from his "beautiful wife" (ugly woman, sorry no other word for it), uglier adult daughter always came along until she "found someone to ring her bell". Yes, he said that from the platform.

  Gary May, deceased

  John Crispin

  Joseph Codespoti

  Larry and Pam Minor-- retired to care for parents, from congregation I was baptized in

  Thomas and Marion Chin

  Jonathan Tucker-- retired when his wife had a stroke

  Marlowe

  Rodriguez taught at my pioneer school

  Bob and Dot Murdock (Substitute)

  Mosher taught at my pioneer school

  Nick (deceased) and Sharon Charlowe (substitute)

  Cook

  Illingworth (D.O.)